Up Next stops playback after source playlist gets updated

Originator:derhessi
Number:rdar://12789319 Date Originated:30.11.2012
Status:Closed Resolved:01.03.2013
Product:iTunes Product Version:11
Classification:UI/Usability Reproducible:Always
 
Summary:
If the source of Up Next is a smart playlist with live updating, the playback of the current song stops if the song is removed from the source playlist by updating its metadata

Steps to Reproduce:
- Create Smart Playlist: Rating is 0 stars, Live Updating
- Start Playback by clicking Play Button next to Playlist name
- Set Rating of current song to a setting different to 0 stars

Expected Results:
Playback of the current song should continue, as it did in iTunes DJ.

Actual Results:
Playback stops, is not even skipped to next song.

Regression:
New behaviour of iTunes 11.

Notes:
Adding all songs to Up Next "manually" is not a viable workaround in case the smart playlist is limited by size (e.g. to sync it to an iOS device). Having the playlist instead of the songs in Up Next automatically adds songs added to the playlist to Up Next. Manual adding the songs to Up Next doesn't.

Comments

wow, another answer...

...surprisingly, I got another response from Apple:

Engineering has reviewed this report, and provided the following information:

Playing from Smart Playlist, which is effectively what is happening here, has always behaved this way. We have no plans to change this.

Well, the obvious answer is "yes I know it's playing from a Smart Playlist, there is no other frickin' way of playback anymore after you killed iTunes DJ", but I guess it's hopeless...

By derhessi at April 19, 2013, 3:11 p.m. (reply...)

couldn't let it go...

...and added "additional comment":

I seriously cannot believe that you see this behaviour as intended.

Let me get this straight, you expect iTunes to stop playing if Up Next's playlist is based on a live updating smart playlist and someone changes the metadata of the track playing so that it isn't contained in the smart playlist anymore? Not even skipping to the next song? Not finishing the playback of the current song?

This is some very weird behaviour.

If you're interested to see why someone would like iTunes to behave the way I'm describing, have a look at http://hessi.tumblr.com/post/1101734138/using-itunes-part-3-the-magic-of-itunes

It's sad that iTunes isn't magic anymore...

But no, I do not have new information, other that I'm disappointed.

By derhessi at March 3, 2013, 12:28 p.m. (reply...)

Closed by Apple

Engineering has determined that this issue behaves as intended based on the following information:

The song did not get removed in iTunes DJ, but did get removed here. This is as designed.

By derhessi at March 1, 2013, 10:57 p.m. (reply...)

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